Vandaag het gesprek met Paul Behrens.
Paul is an author and academic at Leiden University. His popular science book, The Best of Times, The Worst of Times: Futures from the Frontiers of Climate Science describes humanity’s current trajectory and possible futures in paired chapters of pessimism and hope, on topics including the economy, energy, land and food.
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In this conversation with Paul I learned:
- The COPs are like a barometer, it is where the international community is.
- Flying does not feel right anymore for Paul.
- Politics is all about attention. Attention is grabbed by incumbent powers.
- Politicians are just hearing about bio-mass, hydrogen, and carbon capture.
- Biomass is a bad way of doing it. Hydrogen there is a role for it, but much smaller than we are being told. Capturing the carbon from the power plants is not good enough. There are better alternatives, mostly wind and solar.
- Research shows that we have underestimated how much people are willing to change. We are too cynical about our neighbors.
- When a group of civilians from all walks of life got a presentation from scientists about the climate, they come up with policies far beyond what the politicians thought.
- Some of the policies these people came up with were, banning SUVs, frequent flyer levies, and cuts in meat. Not something you see a politician propose, but the people want it. Citizen assemblies.
- 1000 people die in the EU every day, early, from air pollution.
- We can address 70+ percent of our issues with only a handful of technologies and behavior changes.
- Solutions are wind, solar, transmission, insulating houses, plant-based diets, and changes in transportation.
- If we would switch in the high-income nations to plant-based diets, we would save an area as large as the EU. We use about half of all habitable land for agriculture, and about 80% of that is for animal agriculture. We can revert that land back to natural cultivation. This would increase the capture of carbon.
- Rewilding takes energy out of the storms and will reduce flooding, and nature improves mental health.
- One wind turbine kills a bird once a year. One cat kills roughly 9 birds a year. Cars and buildings kill a magnitude more birds.
- By acting you are building hope.
- You need that punch in the gut for the sense of urgency.
- You need a pessimist and hopeful view for a change.
- We need more scientists that engage with emotions.
- Paul is pessimistic about the buzzwords like the SDG and circular economy, it is a way to avoid things that actually make a difference.
- Look where the impact and focus are for your company. What is the hit you want to take?
- The SDGs are not an easy-to-remember common language with 150+ goals.
- Would the SDG’s better when they were shorter and less mutually exclusive?
- How we are consuming is the biggest impact.
- There is going to be a lot of migration in the future.
- We help these refugees over here, or we need to solve the issues over there.
- Personal transformation for external change.
Meer over Paul Behrens:
- Nu is het aan ons #boekencast afl 61 – Eva Rovers
- Het fossiele brandstof feest is voorbij – Ronald Rovers
- Bouwen aan welzijn – Jan Jongert
- De impact van SDG Voice – Loes Gast
- Rutger Hoekstra – Replacing GDP by 2030
Video van het gesprek met Paul Behrens
Kijk hier https://youtu.be/w1KTiNGsOm0